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okay so uh... i read a few reports of misha and julie's panel on collectormania and misha got asked about jimmy and he said that it would be strongly implied that he was still around in a future episode. which makes me squirmy and not in a good way. i mean, i like jimmy. but... really. why bring that up *now*? why didn't cas say anything earlier, why didn't sam and dean ask earlier? so jimmy being alive is either so important that it had to be kept secret until the episode (doubtful) or they're just making it a relatively unimportant detail. or something. idek.

mostly i'm tryng to come up with a ton of scenarios.

* he's alive and kicking and apparently dean talking cas into using his body to have sex with a hooker doesn't matter at all HA HA wtf (i guess he could have given cas permission but idk)
* he's alive and kicking but he's going to get killed somehow in that same ep
* he's alive but cas didn't know it because he was/is comatose or whatever, poss. couldn't tell due to the loss of angel mojo
* he's alive and undamaged which means the possibilities of him going home to his family and cas going back to heaven never to be seen again when the season finishes increase. :[ call me a bad fan or whatever but i doubt i'd watch a 6th season if cas isn't around. :|

of course any of these would make writing dean/castiel a bit (more) difficult, but there have always been ~ways~ around the jimmy issue, so i'm not overly worried.

and lets not mention the anna/castiel panel wtfery which just makes me go ಠ_ಠ

so all of this combined with this dull, uneventful crapfest of a day, has got me feeling a little down. i'll go out and spend my birthday money tomorrow see if that cheers me up some.

(by the way, i just had to request an extension for my

deancas_xmas deadline. fml.)

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jimmy is still around? whut? i always under the impression that he died.

and i wouldn't watch s6 without cas.

amd that monkey is creeeeeeepy.

i confess this entire post was just an excuse to post that gif.

me too! but when misha was asked if jimmy was alive, he apparently said "yes" at once. :/ i will hang onto the "implied" for now.

call me a bad fan or whatever but i doubt i'd watch a 6th season if cas isn't around. :|

My thoughts exactly. I'm kind of a late SPN fan- I came for Castiel, and as much as I love the boys, unless they pull off some totally satisfying and not at all douchey exit (which is unlikely), there's no way I can walk away from this season feeling alright if Cas isn't around for the next.

I'm choosing to hope that this is just a way to answer some of the fan questions. It does seem like a lot of people have been curious to his whereabouts? A girl can hope.

and that anna/cas stuff was fucked up. really? what?

I hope you feel better ♥ huzzah for spending money!

i don't think sam and dean alone are enough to keep me interested enough to watch regularly! if i kept on watching i'd watch it like i do with merlin, i.e. sporadically and days late.

werd. i was like BUT ANGELS ARE SIBLINGS. OR SIBLING-LIKE. WTAF. i'm just gonna go with the "misha was fucking with the fans" explanation cause srsly. what was that.

Oh man, merlin. Now I feel guilty. I'm so behind on that show. But I get what you mean~

He had to be messing around, right? Or even if he wasn't, we can at least hope that the writers weren't thinking the same thing. Small comforts.

WTF Jimmy still hanging about. Whatevs. I'll just block that out. I'm pretty good at that.

mte. me and denial are good friends. u_u

If I have nightmares where a giant monkey with cymbals is chasing me, I know who to blame!

Maybe Cas and Jimmy are merging or something weird like that. Could be one explanation for Cas not being able to get it (his powers) up;p

i'm gonna make icons and use them every time i talk to you, you just wait.

also, that is an interesting option that i hadn't considered! if sounds possible that, if cas is slowly losing his grace, jimmy's soul could be having some weird effect on his angel self.

he's alive and undamaged which means the possibilities of him going home to his family and cas going back to heaven never to be seen again when the season finishes increase.

My thoughts exactly. You've highlighted all the reasons this spoiler made me feel bad-squirmy too. :|

As for Castiel/Anna - lol. I was reading these reports about Misha and Julie playing some scene like a breakup and I was going "Siblings? Hello? Siblings?" It just seems weird to put such heavy emphasis on the status of the angels as brothers, Michael and Lucifer in particular, Gabriel hammering it in, brothers not just in name but as having an actual family dynamic, and then turn around and go HEY CASTIEL AND ANNA ARE TOTALLY GETTING IT ON NUDGE NUDGE WINK WINK. It makes me feel nasty. And from the panel, it sounded like it's not canon (yet), so the writers could be intending it to come across as very sibling-esque, but I want to go up to the actors and be like SRSLY GUYS? SIBLINGS?

i feel bad for wanting jimmy out of the picture because i do like the guy and i feel bad about his shitty situation but dammit, i'll choose cas over him any second of the day. and if he has to go... i don't want spn without misha. hell he's why i started watching in the first place.

It just seems weird to put such heavy emphasis on the status of the angels as brothers, Michael and Lucifer in particular, Gabriel hammering it in, brothers not just in name but as having an actual family dynamic, and then turn around and go HEY CASTIEL AND ANNA ARE TOTALLY GETTING IT ON NUDGE NUDGE WINK WINK.

urrrggg this so much. it's just, gaaah. it's the bad-squirmy feeling again.
i can just see the writers thoroughly wiping their asses with their own angels=family "rule" and offering some bullshit explanation to make cas/anna an exception. and i would be so squicked and pissed off, you don't even know.

I thought Jimmy was kind of boring but I also feel bad for him, which is why, if he's still around, I might actually need Cas to go back to Heaven when the apocalypse is over; he can't just steal Jimmy's body for his own selfish reasons. *sigh* SADNESS. WOE.

BAD-SQUIRMY happens every time I think about this, lolol. Like you said, it would be total bullshit; breaking their own story for the angels because whenever someone who is male (-shaped) and someone who is female (-shaped) care for each other, it has to be sexual, jkshfjfghjfd. Romance storylines are boring, partially because they're usually so contrived, and partially because they're so predictable - oh, attractive man, attractive woman, I wonder if there will be a romance storyline here, how unsurprising and heteronormative. (I'll be especially annoyed about this if they treat the angels as not only not-asexual, but gendered, even when that goes against prior canon - Castiel had no problem possessing Claire. Asexual and genderless characters? THAT'S something that feels new, and I'd hate for them to toss it and the family dynamics for same old same old.)

oh, attractive man, attractive woman, I wonder if there will be a romance storyline here, how unsurprising and heteronormative.

dude, when anyone says "oh, het pairing axb is so obvious, they should hook up in canon already" i feel like yelling "THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY A GOOD THING!" more so in this particular case, for the reasons you mention. it would reduce these two characters and their relationship to "just another romance" when they have other sides to them that are, in my opinion, much more interesting to explore. i'm always drawn to the familial/platonic m/f relationships in my fandoms and i'd love it if anna and cas went THAT route instead of the cliche romance.

it would reduce these two characters and their relationship to "just another romance" when they have other sides to them that are, in my opinion, much more interesting to explore.

THIS. I really like Anna and I really, really like her friendship/sibling relationship with Castiel, but I would just be bleurgh about a romance (and a contributing factor to that is how much something that codes as incestuous being treated as a loving pairing would squick me). I'm also drawn to platonic m/f relationships, be it familial or just friendship, and I think it's in part because they're so goddamn rare.

and be like SRSLY GUYS? SIBLINGS?
Imagine how I felt when, even after Kripke and co. had basically admitted in public that the Dean/Jo romance hadn't worked out because she was coming off as strongly sister-like, Dean decided to ogle Jo and hit on her in 5.10.

Frankly I think this show is subliminally obsessed with incest, even if they're obviously not down with the human incest action for srs.

Yeah. That made me go o_O too, but at least that was only "she feels like a little sister" rather than having it explicitly stated that they are siblings. Heh.

Cas/Anna?

i live in terror, bb. i like anna but cas/anna is a bigger dnw than even wincest.

also i wish i'd kept up with project runway past its 2nd season (the original version). :[

call me a bad fan or whatever but i doubt i'd watch a 6th season if cas isn't around. :|
I don't care if that makes me a bad fan, but I wouldn't either :/

if i watched it, i wouldn't be very dedicated to it. i already spend all the cas-less s5 episodes going "i wonder what cas would do if he were here"/"man i miss cas"/"needs moar cas". i don't know what i'd do with an entire cas-less season!

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yeah. i completely agree that he's better off dead, with the way things are going.

lol, jimmu. sounds like the anime version of jimmy. :D

BUT REALLY, CAN'T ANNA BE A PAL AND HOOK HIM UP WITH HER ~CONTACTS~ SO THAT HE CAN GET A BRAND-SPANKIN' JIMMY!BODY JUST FOR HIMSELF?

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I HAD HIGH HOPES FOR GABRIEL BEING A COOL LADY ANGEL. SIGH. NOT THAT I DON'T LOVE THE GABESTER, BUT STILL. AT THIS POINT ANNA IS LOOKING LIKE THE SMURFETTE OF ANGELS AND THAT'S JUST FUCKING WEIRD.

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I *THINK* I READ THAT MICHAEL WOULD BE USING RANDOM TEMPORARY VESSELS TO TALK TO DEAN? ONE COULD BE A WOMAN.

(ALSO I'M PRETTY MUCH READY TO SHIP MICHAEL/DEAN. I'M HOLDING OUT UNTIL I SEE THEM INTERACT THOUGH, CAUSE THAT'S HOW I ROLL.)

I DO LIKE ANNA BUT I HAVE COME TO REALIZE THAT I MIGHT LIKE THE IDEA OF THE CHARACTER MORE THAN THE CHARACTER HERSELF. IDK.

OH I KNOW. ANGELS DON'T HAVE FEELINGS MY ASS. I WOULD LOVE A BROTHER-SISTER CAS/ANNA RELATIONSHIP, MOSTLY BECAUSE CAS NEEDS TO HAVE SOME FAMILY MEMBERS AROUND THAT AREN'T ACTIVELY TRYING TO KILL HIM. AND ALSO BECAUSE I HATE ALL INCEST AND OH MY GOD WHAT AM I EVEN DOING IN THIS FANDOM, HALP.

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I CAN'T DO ANGELCEST EITHER TBH. THEIR DYNAMICS ARE TOO FAMILY-LIKE EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT RELATED IN THE BIOLOGICAL SENSE OF THE WORD :|

I'M KIND OF TAKEN WITH THAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP FOR THEM. I LOVE IT IN FIC. I EVEN WENT AND DREW CAS & ANNA AS LITTLE HUMAN SIBLINGS. :| BUT I DOUBT WE'LL SEE IT. IT'S MOMENTS LIKE THIS WHEN I WISH THE SHOW WERE A LITTLE LESS MALE CHARACTER-CENTRIC AND USED THE FEMALES FOR MORE THAN VILLAINS/LOVE INTERESTS. THEY WERE DOING NICELY WITH ELLEN AND JO BUT THEN THEY DIED. :[

THE META JUST MAKES ME LOL. IDG PEOPLE WHO ARE ALL OFFENDED BY IT. I'M HALF DISAPPOINTED AND HALF RELIEVED THAT THEY'RE IGNORING THE DEAN/CAS SHIP AND LEAVING US ALONE. >_>

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I DIDN'T LOVE BECKY IN 5X01. IN FACT I FOUND HER RLY SQUICKY. BUT I LOVED HER TO BITS ON THE CON EPISODE. AND BECKY/CHUCK IS FTW.

anna/castiel? what? jimmy alive? what? what the fuck kinda crazy show is this where jimmy gets an entire episode, CASTIEL STILL DOESN'T HAVE ONE, and with all the increased skeeve factor jimmy is BACK? whutwhut?

idek man, idek.

i doubt jimmy will get another episode, at least. but yeah. the skeeve factor goes up like whoa, and i'm not even talking about shipping here. the whorehouse ep gets like 1000 times worse with jimmy still there (whether they knew he was alive or not)

i hope he's like... alive but not really? comatose? pretty much dead but not quite? idk. i hate to think of him stuck in there, esp. now that cas is losing his angel powahz.

The .gif is amazing. That is all. ♥

i know i have mad love for it. im gonna make me an icon.

LOLOL, so basically Show has given up fighting the fans and decided that vessel consent and sibling relationships are no longer an issue and raep and incest are a-okay. Yay! Or rather, what the ever loving fuck?

Until Show confirms in an episode that Jimmy is still around, I'm going to stick to my personal canon that he died when Raphael vaporised Cas, mainly because the thought that they got this far (especially with the events of 5.03) without giving even a passing thought to Jimmy and his family is incredibly D: making. Would that also mean that Jimmy died anyway at some point in the 5 years that passed in 5.04? And if so, how? I'm hoping once again for a damn good explanation. Ugh, trust Kripke to give himself a perfect out and then decide not to take it.

As for the Cas/Anna thing, I can only assume that they're fucking with the fans. Even back in 4.16 their scenes together felt more like a little brother/big sister thing than ~sexual tension~ to me. Plus I'm pretty sure they're both good enough at their jobs to have been paying attention to the whole 'family of angels' thing that's been set up in this season.

Oh Show, constantly blurring the lines between between sanity and insanity. (On the other hand, all those Cas/Anna shippers who are in it because they find slash yucky but totally ignore the incestuous elements of their ship amuse me muchly.)

if that's what happens i'm gonna be like WTFFFFF CASTIEL SHIPPERS AND ANTI SHIPPERS ALIKE SPEND TIME WORRYING ABOUT VESSEL RAPE AND THEN CANON SAYS LOL FUCK YOU AND YOUR CONSENT CONCERNS. seriously... why give jimmy an entire episode dedicated to him only to forget about him later? i'm hoping, no, expecting a decent explanation for this.

i agree about 5x04. i can only imagine that jimmy's soul was somehow forced to leave his body or died and disappeared with cas' grace. the same thing could be happening even now -- he might be still alive, but in what state?

i dunno man. i can totally see thr writers pulling a bullshit explanation out of their asses ("oh but anna fell so it's not the same"/"cas is becoming human so it's not the same"/"they only call each other brothers and sisters symbolically so it's not the same" [nevermind that it's the dynamic here that's important, not the literal definition of family] etc etc.)

most of those cas/anna shippers go with bullshit explanation #3, i'm sure.

I had batshit crackspec that who/whatever resurrected Castiel, split Cas and Jimmy apart into two separate Misha Collins-shaped persons. We know angels can reconstitute bodies from nothing (Anna's "favors" from OTHOAP to get her old body back). We had Doublemint Dean, why not Doublemint Misha? IDK IDK, if they went to so much trouble to explain away Ruby's meatsuit being empty when she jumped in (so there could be Sam fucking sans rape squick), why would they allow Cas to bang a hooker if Jimmy's still in there? Granted, he didn't in the end, but he very nearly did. Even if Jimmy were comatose, just like it would have been with Sam fucking Ruby in an occupied meatsuit, that's still some major squicky "Kill Bill" shit right there. IDEFK writers.

Anna/Cas? Yeah, no. I don't care that Misha has chemistry with everyone and everything ~~and Jensen/Julie had none at all~~. That's not remotely an excuse. It's like my roommate who can't resist buying Oreos because they've been buy one get one free all week at the nearest grocery store, even tho she doesn't like them that much. Bitch, just because they're on sale doesn't mean you have to buy them!! I bet Sera Gamble is responsible for this, this has her bad, cheesy fanfic vibe all over it. What's even sicker is, because of the other spoilers surrounding her, I think she is going to be inevitably dead. So she's fucked and then dies. >:X Glad to see women back to being pieces of meat after the Harvelles glorious, dignified exit, you sexist dbags!!

Altho, if Dean does turn out to have been Michael all along, and from Dean(Michael) fucking her in H&H to Cas possibly fucking her whenthefuckever... about the only thing holding them back from Dean/Cas in my mind would be their (admittedly typical) gay panic. Or they going to somehow wank that angel/angel wingcest is only okay when it's het pairings? Oh, but the female angels aren't *really* related to the male, so it's not incest for them! Heaven is just as wholesomely heteronormative as Earth, ya know!! o hai double standard ~~rampant homophobia~~

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i love your batshit theories and i want all of them to become canon.

if they went to so much trouble to explain away Ruby's meatsuit being empty when she jumped in (so there could be Sam fucking sans rape squick), why would they allow Cas to bang a hooker if Jimmy's still in there?

really, the fact that they didn't bother to say anything about jimmy before the whorehouse shenanigans gave me some v. bad vibes about the whole scnene in general. it would have only taken a few extra lines of dialogue! even the most mediocre fanfic writer can manage it.

just because they're on sale doesn't mean you have to buy them!!

LOL! exactly.

and well, seeing as michael is going to be appearing on the show, i don't think the dean=michael theory has much of a chance (besides if he is michael i'd have to swallow my words on the "dnw angelcest" issue because no way i could ever let go of dean/cas even with the added incest squick, or i would end up making up excuses and explanations of my own which would make me a gigantic hypocrite re: anna/cas and i would prefer that not to happen)

Or they going to somehow wank that angel/angel wingcest is only okay when it's het pairings? Oh, but the female angels aren't *really* related to the male, so it's not incest for them! Heaven is just as wholesomely heteronormative as Earth, ya know!!

or, or "anna fell! it doesn't count as incest"/"cas is becoming human, it doesn't count as incest!"/they could ~fall~ together, that would make it not incest!/ etc etc i almost made myself vomit with the last one.

Not to sound arrogant as hell, but yeah, I totes prefer my Doublemint Misha theory over Jimmy's Still Around, They Just Forgot Him In That Ep kind of incompetent plotting leading to major squick in Cas' arc.

Srsly, having there be a Jimmy AND a Castiel separate from each other makes sense to me. Sort of making them like divine twins or something, like Castor and Pollux. However, I just love the idea of Cas running into Jimmy ....whose been hiding out, along with his family, by the very person/thing that resurrected them both. If not God Himself, then Michael or some other superpowered angel loyal to God.

really, the fact that they didn't bother to say anything about jimmy before the whorehouse shenanigans gave me some v. bad vibes about the whole scnene in general. it would have only taken a few extra lines of dialogue! even the most mediocre fanfic writer can manage it.

Dude, they better have saved the Jimmy business for some big reveal (hence why it was conspicuously absent in 5.03) otherwise you're so right about them coming off as lousy, careless fanfic writers. They frickin' gave a whole ep to Jimmy last season (we've never had a Castiel ep yet despite him being new regular!) AND the pains they took to tell us Ruby's new vessel was empty. Yet they're so slapdash with Castiel's arc they just fail to mention Jimmy was in there the whole time while Cas was ready to infect his body with a bunch of STDs? That's one big pile of WTF mixed with a side of bullshit. That would be like they were more careful with Ruby than Castiel!

and well, seeing as michael is going to be appearing on the show, i don't think the dean=michael theory has much of a chance

Unless it's misdirection and there's some bizarro A Beautiful Mind shit happening here. Although Elfen Lied (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elfen_Lied) might be more fitting. Or that episode of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles when Cameron (the story's main Terminator) forgot she was a Terminator due to a malfunction and believed she was some chick named Allison (who Cameron the Terminator was designed to look and act like). (http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/Episode_204:_Allison_from_Palmdale)

bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww what the hell

i thought jimmy died and went to heaven and his body was an empty shell being used by cas! I HOPE THAT IS WHAT CAS EXPLAINS TO SAM/DEAN/ANYONE WHO ASKS

i doubt that will be the case :[

Ok I love Jimmy to itty pieces, but please don't let this mean Cas is getting kicked out or shipped back to Heaven so Jimmy can return to his normal life. D:

I must be a bad fan too; I've been watching since the Pilot and I'd still stop watching if they took my Cas away for S6. The magic's gone, y'know.

UGHHHHH, CAS/ANNA MAKES ME WANT TO STAB THINGS. It's such a horrid idea for a million different reasons. Aside from the INCEST FACTOR HELLO WTF, angels are supposedly genderless; the writers have gone out of their way to beat us over the heads with this, so a sudden ~romantic~ relationship would be backtracking on what they've said before, which is a complete cop-out for the sake of conjuring some lame, homophobic plot device. Angels are supposedly emotionless, which means they shouldn't be able to ~fall in love~ with each other. Of course, the ~~idiots~~ shippers would use the excuse that "Anna is different because she fell!" or "Cas is becoming human so he's different!", but nnnnnnno. Anna got re-angeled, tyvm, and Cas has a couple of more pressing concerns to think about than a cheesy incestuous romance. Like, oh I don't know, the motherfucking Apocalypse.

ALSO, INCEST. If they make Cas/Anna canon, why not just take the next logical step and make Wincest canon? Ugh.

And yeah, yeah, the shippers use ridiculous under-the-radar excuses like "they're not really siblings since they didn't share a womb"/"Anna is the only one who knows what Cas is going through with his fall!"/etc, but really, come on, people. Creating some contrived, predictable, heternormative bullshit relationship would not only be the most boring storyline ever, it would also downplay the enormity of what Cas has gone through for Dean - and I don't even mean that in a Dean/Cas sense (much.) He's sacrificed so much in the name of the ~greater good~, so to suddenly interrupt his epic arc and throw in a random "OH HAY BTW I'M IN LOVE WITH MY SISTER, LET'S FOCUS ON THAT INSTEAD OF THE APOCALYPSE" would be so. fucking. stupid.

It's not even anything expressly against Anna as a character. Yes, I utterly despise her character, but I could stand her being around if the writers would just cut down on all the ridiculous sexual-centric storylines. Really, guys, there can be a such thing as a female character who's not a sex object or a love interest. Ffffff.

...BUT YEAH, MOSTLY JUST INCEST. GENDERLESS INCEST. ~~AND DUH, CAS IS OBV IN LOVE WITH DEAN ANYWAY.~~ ASHDKLJSAD DNFW.

lol i'm chasing you all over my posts trying to catch up with your comments. damn notifications.

Angels are supposedly emotionless, which means they shouldn't be able to ~fall in love~ with each other.

(warning: i'm rambling and this will probs not make sense)

ok i'm kinda ambivalent about that reasoning because imo angels are certainly capable of emotion. now, this doesn't mean an angel's emotions are like a human's. so they might not even experience romantic love. i mean, cas became clearly attached to dean even before he fell, but i'm sure that romantic love had anything to do with that. so he maybe came to love him like he loves the rest of his brothers and sisters. idk.

but then cas falls (or something like it) and you could make a case for him developing human emotions now that he's cut off from heaven's influence (and i think misha has been pretty clear that that's exactly what's happening).

and then you have anna. i definitely noticed that she became more serious/businesslike/cold/whatever after regaining her grace, but i'm not sure she forgot about how it felt to have human emotions (and a female human body). the writers could take the "she still remembers her humanity" route to make anna/cas happen. more so if she falls out of favor with heaven again and ends up sort-of falling too.

i don't know which option would cause me to die of disgust faster: if they paired them up and completely glossed over the incest factor or came up with some bullshit "oh they're an exception and this is why" hand-wave. because it WILL smell like bullshit, no matter what they say to make it not-creepy.

and there's also what i told

ibroketuesday: the platonic brother/sister dynamic or even the commandant/subordinate soldier dynamic is much more interesting to explore than just another boring hetero romance blah blah etc.

i like anna (or, rather, i like the *idea* of anna) but if her coming back means cas/anna, i'm going to have to say no thx. i'd roll my eyes if it means more dean/anna too (i'd prefer she comes back to kick ass instead of making cow eyes at dean, even if i find the idea of dean/anna cute in theory) because yeah, plz to be giving women a role that does not include "love interest", but it wouldn't make me see red like cas/anna would.

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Oh I'm totally with you on the emotions thing. After all, isn't emotion the root of action? Why else would Cas have chosen to go rogue, if not for his feelings (however they may be interpreted) for Dean? And definitely yes on the Cas slowly becoming human thing. The way I see it, angels feel emotions but on a plane much different than humans do... idk if that makes sense at all, and who knows if that's even remotely close to what the writers were going for, but yeah. *hands*

My beef with the angels WRT emotions starts when people start trying to use that as a basis for making Cas/Anna canon. I'm completely okay with angels showing emotion (Zach has certainly shown some, as did Uriel, Gabriel, and even Cas), but when it's used for such lame purposes as just another boring, heteronormative romance subplot - "Oh, Cas is fallen now, he's able to feel love and realize his ~true feelings~ for ~~HIS FUCKING SISTER~~ Anna! And oh, Anna knows what it's like to have human emotion, so they're so perfect!!!!1" - I'd rather be gagged, weighted, and tossed into the Ganges.

if they paired them up and completely glossed over the incest factor or came up with some bullshit "oh they're an exception and this is why" hand-wave.

What's terrifying is that I can honestly see them taking either of these routes, especially since Misha has stated several times that he'd really like to see some sort of romantic interest pop up for Cas at some point. UGHHH, STFU MISHA. I LOVE YOU BUT SERIOUSLY, NO, STOP IT, YOU ARE HURTING ME. DNFW.

A platonic brother-sister dynamic would be very cool, or even a commandant/subordinate soldier thing (though that would be harder to pull off since Cas is basically working solo now - he's not under anyone's command but his own.) I would love for that "history" they mentioned to be a platonic thing that related somehow to Anna's previous position in the hierarchy and her choice of falling/how it affected those she was in command of at the time. That would be so much more interesting than "oh hey btw they used to be ~in love~, even though they're noncorporeal, genderless siblings."

I liked the idea of Anna too, but imho her story should have ended when she was re-angeled in the barn. Like you, I like the idea of her, but it's the execution that I have a problem with. Nothing against Julie McNiven or anything, but she's just... dull, and seems kind of extraneous to me. If they had her play a bigger role in the apocalypse as a badass warrior angel instead of a love interest for Dean (and now, possibly Cas D:), I'd love to see her around more. But, well. Yeah.

In conclusion, I'm just gonna go back over here in my happy corner and eat candy and dream about OTP!porn. \o/

OMG I TEXTWALLED YOU, I'M SO SORRY. :$

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LOL I ENJOY TEXTWALLS IF THEY HAVE TO DO WITH CAS.

What's terrifying is that I can honestly see them taking either of these routes, especially since Misha has stated several times that he'd really like to see some sort of romantic interest pop up for Cas at some point.

uuughhh. no. i already have to deal with crappy romantic subplots in my other fandom (merlin) i don't want to have to put up with them in spn too. BESIDES, CAS IS A BIT BUSY. with all he's doing, including a romance for him would be... too much. esp. since in my opinion it would require a more careful development than it would be possible at this point. i wanna see him get more screentime but not because of THAT. whether it's anna or some random girl.

if they MUST give him a love interest, why don't they wait until the supposed 6th season (provided they keep misha). i can postpone the vomiting and the screaming and throwing of things to the wall until then.

of course, this all changes if cas' love interest is DEAN, because they already know each other, and they have a strong, established relationship that doesn't code as incestuous and that's not all that difficult to take further even if it never moves beyond mutual non-acknowledged attraction, but then i hit myself with the reality cluebat and remember that a) it's never going to happen and b) even if it happened, it would no doubt end horribly.

(i always get myself into these messes. i go for the pairings that "could almost" be canon and inevitably set myself up for disappointment. why can't my OTPs be crazy shit that doesn't have a remote chance of ever happening?)

seems kind of extraneous to me.

well yeah. after the got re-angeled her appearances were kind of weird. it was like, "pop out of thin air for info dump/trying to convince cas to rebel, disappear". and after cas fell, her role was kind of made obsolete. at least they're giving her something different to do this time.

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